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  • #1Jul 30, 2012

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    Say my opponent has an Inkmoth Nexus with Rancor on it. I have a Fog Bank in play and use it to block. Will I get trampled for 1 poision damage and will my Fog Bank get killed from poison. Or will I take no poison damage and no counters on my Fog Bank.

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    You'll get 1 poison counter and your Fog Bank will remain untouched. Inkmoth Nexus will attempt to deal damage in the form of -1/-1 counters, but Fog Bank cannot be dealt combat damage. It will still trample over for 1, though.

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    You will get trampled for one point of (poison) damage, but your Fog Bank will emerge without harm. Trample rules state that you must assign lethal damage, defined as damage equal to the toughness of the blocker minus damage already marked on the creature (or one damage from a source with deathtouch).

    The fact that the damage will be prevented by Fog Bank's ability does not change how the trample will work.

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    Quote from Drifting Skies

    You will get trampled for one point of (poison) damage, but your Fog Bank will emerge without harm. Trample rules state that you must assign lethal damage, defined as damage equal to the toughness of the blocker minus damage already marked on the creature (or one damage from a source with deathtouch).

    The fact that the damage will be prevented by Fog Bank's ability does not change how the trample will work.

    you can decide to mark more points of damage on a creature though if you have trample like if you were trying to play around mutagenic growth though right?

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    You can. Trample rules state that the amount of damage I described is the minimum that you may assign. You may assign more if you'd like (say, you want to make sure your opponent's Gisela gets nice and dead).

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  • #7Jul 30, 2012

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    Quote from King Pun

    you can decide to mark more points of damage on a creature though if you have trample like if you were trying to play around mutagenic growth though right?

    Yes, you can assign more damage than lethal to the blocking creature(s) if so choose to but that doesn't really apply in the OP's scenario.

    Also be aware that players do not receive priority between damage being assigned and damage being dealt so Mutagenic Growth is unlikely to be helpful in instances where lethal damage is...well lethal.

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    Quote from King Pun

    you can decide to mark more points of damage on a creature though if you have trample like if you were trying to play around mutagenic growth though right?

    Yes. You can mark as many points of damage as you want on a creature. Trample just gives you the option of dealing that damage directly to the defending player.

  • #10Sep 22, 2012

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    Unless something gives a creature the ability to block multiple creatures at a time (such as Wall of Glare) it can only block one at a time. So you normally can't do that. If your Fog Bank were enchanted with, say, Entangler, then it would stop everything it could block, assuming they don't have trample.

    EDIT: And if one or more of them does have trample, things get a little more complicated. Your opponent can have each creature Fog Bank is blocking assign damage in whatever order he wants. If one creature has trample, and the others have at least 2 power between them, then the opponent can assign the non-trampling damage first, then, since the Bank has been assigned "lethal" damage, the trample can trample over for its full power. If all of the creatures being blocked have trample, the Bank will just stop 2 damage total.

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    Right. The default is that a single blocking creature can only block one attacking creature, unless some ability/effect says otherwise. To block 3 attacking creatures, you generally need 3 creatures of your own.

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    a creature can only block 1 attacker normally except if that creature have an ability to do multiple block.. so yes you need at least 3 creature to block 3 attacking creatures... but keep in mind 1 attacking creature can be block by more than one creature

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    so does it mean that everytime you declare multiple creatures to attack, for example 3 you have to declare 3 blockers (if they dont have an ability to block multiple creatures as you said earlier)? You can't block 3 creatures with one even if it has enough toughness to survive all of them?

    Correct.
    One creature can normally only block one attacker. If a creature can block more than one attacker, it will so right on the card; compare, for example, Palace Guard.

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